Episode 23: Hear Chase out!
Chase: Welcome to Neurotakes, I'm Chase.
Courn: This is Courn.
Chase: Let's get into it! Did we really not explain the difference between a cucumber and a zucchini from that last episode or whatever that was?
Courn: It was like 2 episodes ago. No!
Chase: Do you- you really don't know?
Courn: I don't.
Chase: Oh well, they're 2 different vegetables, like a cucumber and a zucchini are 2 different vegetables. They're probably similar I couldn't tell you like biology difference.
Courn: I feel like they're under the same squashy family?
Chase: Probably yeah probably.
Courn: Gourds?
Chase: Oh.
Courn: I don't know what that is.
Chase: Is a squash, a gourd?
Courn: But just because they're different.
Chase: They're different vegetables. They look similar, but they taste completely different, different textures. I feel like the skin on a cucumber is like way thicker and it's like way softer inside. Like you don't cook a cucumber ever. You eat that shit raw.
Courn: And you don't eat a-
Chase: You could probably eat a raw zucchini, but it probably wouldn't taste good.
Courn: That sounds absolutely horrid.
Chase: Yeah, like you always cut it and cook it and chop it or like prepare it, you know? And there's like way less seeds in a zucchini. I think zucchinis have pretty minimal seeds in the inside versus a cucumbers got those big ass flat seeds!
Courn: I feel like there's really not any besides whatever the ring and you can't really tell. So you can raw dog a cucumber and you can not raw dog zucchini?
Chase: Probably.
Courn: That is the differentiation.
Chase: That's the only difference that matters.
Courn: Yeah. Okay. Now, you know,
Chase: Welcome back to Neurotakes! My wife suggested we do the trend that's going around right now called Hear Me Out. Do you know what that trend is?
Courn: I do, but like many things. I have questions. I have questions.
Chase: I didn't realize what it was until I had looked it up and I was like oh, yeah okay yeah I know what this is explanatory comma, the hear me out trend is just people printing off like pictures of characters who you wouldn't necessarily think is like hot, attractive, cute, likeable, but then like you like, hear me out though. It's like a hot take on unconventional characters and so people just kind of come up with like really absurd characters and then you for some reason, you put them in a cake. I don't know why you put them on a stick and put them in cake?
Courn: Everyone likes cake, a spectacle!
Chase: Sure. I'm here for it. And it's always like a homemade cake, or it's like some like shitty cake sometimes you know it's kind of trendy so we're just gonna do that I got some hear me outs for you. You can tell me if they're good or bad and then laugh about them cause I'm curious to see what you think.
Courn: Yeah, let me at it.
Chase: What do you think of the trend? Do you like it?
Courn: I mean, I think it's funny. Yeah, I think I just didn't understand at first cause I like didn't really know what it meant by hear me out. Like I didn't know like you, would you date these people? Would you have relationships? Consummate?
Chase: I thought you were going to say relations. I was like Courn! Come on, just say sex.
Courn: Consummate your relationships?
Chase: Ewww!
Courn: Yeah, I didn't know if it meant like you wanted to have sex with them and then that confused me, but sounds like some people are like, yeah, like they're sexy, and that's confusing to me. It's interesting because I feel like I saw an early version of this trend like a long time ago, like maybe earlier this year, maybe even a year prior, but it seemed to be like only like people, like real life, not real life, but like actual people.
Chase: Not characters.
Courn: Yeah, like not animated characters, which seems to be what I'm seeing the most now. Which is confusing to me, cause I'm just like, I don't know. I think I was attracted to almost like every character in a show I liked just because I'm like, oh, they're human. They're cool. They're just like me. Like, I don't know, they, you have empathy for them.
Chase: They’re an alien, just like me!
Courn: Yeah. So I didn't understand that. I was just like, oh yeah, I could hear me out about pretty much anyone. And maybe that's just the pan autistic in me, but I'm like, I've never been like, oh, unless it's like literally like, I don't know, a child or a straight up animal with no human features. Oh, that's where I draw the line on this challenge.
Chase: Yes. And I think that was an interesting point as I prepared some of these last night where I was like are you allowed to, I looked at like the Rugrats and I was like are you? No, Jess and I looked at each other like like nah!
Courn: I feel like I need a disclaimer for like when I watched that show, because I think that's how I feel about every like show I watched growing up like I'm like oh they all are underage but also I was underage so I wasn't like I wanted to you know bang them but I'm yeah they look seem like they'd be nice to hold hands with!
Chase: Sure, that yeah exactly exactly, I think that's a great definition especially for folks on the ace spectrum who may not feel the same conventional attractions that we're talking about in this trend. If that's the right way to put that.
Courn: Yeah.
Chase: No, or just lack of. Lack of, I guess it's not even the same.
Courn: I think what got me is I felt like I kept seeing a lot of like straight people doing it and then they just like, you know, put people of the same gender that are like already hot!
Chase: Yes, let's talk about that.
Courn: What?
Chase: Yeah, because you're definitely not supposed to put like the hot characters in stuff. Like you look at Lilo and Stitch, no one's supposed to put Nani. Nani's hot.
Chase: Yeah, we all know! Incredibles mom? That's not a hot take.
Chase: Exactly. And a lot of people did like the stallion, the horse. What was the horse? Spirit. Like everyone's like, okay, that's too obvious. So you're supposed to pick like very opposite of that. And it's like people who you would never think or like something funny. And like, it's kind of the absurdity and like randomness of it, that is entertaining and funny or characters you forgot about in a way.
Courn: Yeah. Don't put like, I literally saw a cake that was like on Chappell Roan and like Reneé Rapp. And you were like, what do you mean? They're both so hot, just because you're straight?!
Chase: Yeah, that was another trend is like, also it's a lot of white people doing the trend. I had a hard time finding like a lot of like brown people and I curate my like TikTok page very specifically. Like I watched predominantly TikTok videos of people of color. Like I've curated quite a bit.
Courn: No, you're so right though. Like I really think I've only seen white people doing it.
Chase: Yeah, so when I like looked up the trend, when you just like search it, it like pulled up results and I was just like, there's a lot of white people, there's a lot of straight people and like yeah, it was like people doing the opposite sex if they were straight, I imagine they were, because they were like in a couple and stuff, which is fair, but I definitely was like, okay, I'm trying to find some girls in this. But yeah, it was kind of strange. So like, I think that's always interesting that it's predominantly white people.
Courn: I can't tell if it's just like white people love stupid trends like that or just like the algorithm also is pushing white people, probably a combination of both.
Chase: I would agree. RIP. I didn't think. .
Courn: I think of all the characters too. I'm like oh they're all kind of white coded characters too.
Chase: Oooh!
Courn: And that made me think oh hear me out. I'm attracted to a person of color, wow!
Chase: Oooh! That’s a good point!
Courn: Which kind of feels like an unintended consequence of some of those people who like have 1 person of color or like even just like a coded, racially coded animated character.
Chase: Yeah, and I definitely went through and was like, okay, this would be weird to pick that that would be kind of weird, yeah-
Courn: I think they’re all weird!
Chase: I think that's kind of the point of the trend, right?
Courn: So we mean this all, not seriously!
Chase: No just to laugh and be entertained because we like to entertain people. I've just been calling out more lately how much I like to be the center of attention and people are just like, okay, yeah, we know.
Courn: I love the honesty. I like, you know, I like to be the center of attention but I'm not the 1 to be like, me, me, me, me. I just talk too much and make things about myself when I don't mean to so that's the gemini in me!
Chase: It sure is, look at you learning, see it's also about to be a gemini, they're entertainers!
Courn: Ever since I found that poster that had jigglypuff as a gemini on it, it really changed my perspective.
Chase: I love it. And you got the Jigglypuff key chain on the bag today. You always have it.
Courn: My phone case has Jigglypuff. I got Jigglypuff on my arm. There's at least 4 Jigglypuffs on me at all times.
Chase: Is it? You've got a phone case? Is that new? No, that's not new.
Courn: I’ve had that for like a year!
Chase: Yeah, you've had that. You've had that.
Courn: Not me just taking down my water bottle.
Chase: Spilling shit in my office. OK, well, do you have any other questions and comments, concerns or hear me out? I want you to really go on about this, like really see if you know these characters. I started off easy but I got a couple weird ones in here.
Courn: No, I want to go into because I was really struggling to come up with a list because then I felt like I was just looking up old stuff and then they were all too young and I so I need to know, I need for reference I need to know your list.
Chase: Yeah and I don't think it's necessarily like animals that you'd want to like have sex with in a way, it's just kind of like the character and maybe like the personality represents, so I don't think I have I have a couple in here that are not like humans, but you know also if they're like from an animated show, are they even humans? So okay, we're gonna start off, we're gonna start off real easy. Wanda from Fairly Oddparents, hear me out.
Courn: Yeah, yeah. No, she definitely gives like, I don't know, like masc lesbian vibes even though she has a husband, but she fucking hates him and that-
Chase: Yeah and he's kind of the worst! What's his name, wanda and…
Courn: Cosmo!
Chase: What's the song, yeah yeah the theme song okay-
Courn: Giant snakes, chocolate shakes!
Chase: There we go! Yeah so I just put wanda's my first 1 because also I have a little bit of mommy issues.
Courn: I don't think that's unhinged.
Chase: Well, I don't know if these are all supposed to be unhinged. They're supposed to be just like entertaining.
Courn: Yeah. You know, I'd fuck around with Wanda.
Chase: Yeah. Wanda's a good time. She's like very stern, but I feel like you could really like.
Courn: Also like a wizard, like a fairy.
Chase: She's kind of always problem solving, fixing shit, you know, doing stuff for people. I'm like, yeah.
Courn: My not hear me out would be Juandissimo. I think that's his name.
Chase: Oh!!
Courn: He's like my opposite of a hear me out, and I'm like, they tried to make an attractive character like they pre-dated Salt Bae with his character design. He is Salt Bae.
Chase: Yeah he really is really creepy too.
Courn: Very pushy and gross but-
Chase: Yeah yeah yeah but they also of course give him like the accent which I have a problem with because I feel like that's always fetishized of like people of color right with like accents and things.
Courn: Yeah I did see a cake where someone picked, I don't know what his name is, the army guy, the big guy?
Chase: Oh!
Courn: They were like, he's a bear for sure, and I was like-
Chase: Not wrong! Not wrong. I feel like what was the the boy band kid that-
Courn: Yes, Skylark!
Chase: Yes, he would be the obvious 1.
Courn: My shiny teeth and me!
Chase: He would be the obvious 1. I feel like in this like.
Courn: Actually my hear me out from that would be Trixie Chan!
Chase: Oooh!
Courn: Cause I always thought Trixie Chan was like really cute and I couldn't tell if I was just self, you know putting myself on that cuz like they're the only Asian character-
Chase: Yeah yeah yeah she's kind of a brat though wasn't she?
Courn: She was a brat, she was a rich brat but-
Chase: I was not allowed to have those dolls as a kid the Bratz dolls were you?
Courn: I didn't. I just never really got into them. Maybe I feel like they just like weren't as popular with my friends and stuff. But I thought Barbie-
Chase: Because you're 1 of the boys!
Courn: Yeah, I feel like Barbie stopped as soon as I got to elementary school. No one was playing with Barbies anymore. I'm too young. I feel like it went on to like my little pony and littlest pet shop.
Chase: Oh, littlest pet shop!
Courn: I didn't like human toys.
Chase: Or Polly Pocket was really big. I had those.
Courn: I never had those either, but I loved those. Like they just looked so cute to me. They were so small.
Chase: I like the mini stuff. That's the ADHD. Little mini stuff.
Courn: That's also me now collecting calico critters or Sylvanian families, whatever you want to call it.
Chase: Yeah, no, my parents were like, no, you will not have a bratz doll like if you want a barbie fine but I didn't want a barbie anyways because I was like into basketball-
Courn: Oh yeah!
Chase: Boy stuff!
Courn: yeah I went the little hot wheels, tech deck!
Chase: Yes I had a little tech tech skateboards. I had those, yeah. Do you remember when McDonald's had like the boy and girl toy?
Courn: Yeah.
Chase: Yeah, I always got the boy toy. Cause they were cooler. Sometimes it was like a video game. Sometimes it was like, like a sports thing. I don't know. And the girls always had like dolls and just makeup. And I was like, boo, I don't want that.
Courn: This is like a random thing, but I absolutely hated McDonald's, but I would tell my parents I love McDonald's so I could get the happy, whatever the toys. You know, Happy Meal toys. I didn't like anything in a Happy Meal.
Chase: Really?
Courn: Nothing.
Chase: Remember when they made the switch to apple slices? Boo.
Courn: I didn't eat it anyway, so it didn't matter.
Chase: How come you didn't like it?
Courn: I just didn't like that type of food. I was like extremely picky. That was when I was in my mac and cheese phase. I wouldn't eat anything else, but I would pretend to eat it just because they had like the dogs which that brand that was like the giant dog heads?
Chase: Yeah!
Courn: Yeah they have that partnership with the dogs and I went every week-
Chase: Try to get it, yeah!
Courn: I only ever got two!
Chase: Those were good times, simple time, when you're going to McDonald's trying to collect all the toys in a set. Oh!
Courn: Now the resellers get everything.
Chase: Literally. It was just a, what do they call that? Like what's the drug that gets you into the other drugs?
Courn: The gateway.
Chase: The gateway drug. It was a gateway drug to my sneaker collection now.
Chase: Oh I think it was like the gateway to trinkets like for autistic/ ADHD folks, if you become like the hoarding type.
Chase: Yeah me.
Courn: That's early blind box. I don't even know when blind boxes came out. Maybe that predates that.
Chase: I love it. I love it. Okay. My next hear me out is the squirrel from Emperor's New Groove.
Courn: What do they look like?
Chase: Okay, you gotta look it up. You remember the squirrel? So the obvious answer for like Emperor's New Groove would be Kronk. That's like, obviously, come on.
Courn: Is it? Ohhh.
Chase: But then a lot of people do Yzma.
Courn: Okay they're like cute, okay and I oh yeah because don't they like they get like kind of psychotic too?
Chase: Yeah, they go a little yeah they go a little hard they kind of go feral a bit.
Courn: I think this one's a little unhinged. That's a straight up animal, but they are cute.
Chase: Very loyal. And they speak squirrel. Squeak, squeak.
Courn: The make balloons.
Chase: Yeah.
Courn: That's a cool party trick.
Chase: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a whole time. So I went with, what's that face for? Processing?
Courn: No, I thought the mom was hot in Emperor’s New Groove.
Chase: Oh yeah!
Courn: She like had the body, they had coded there was good.
Chase: When she was like pregnant at 1 point. She was like, she didn't put up with any shit. But she was like funny.
Courn: I liked Kuzco too.
Chase: Her voice was good. She had a good voice. Yeah. Kuzco is llama or like Kuzco, Kuzco?
Courn: Kuzco, Kuzco.
Chase: Okay.
Courn: I think, okay. This is something that I partner says all the time that this is inherently my take so all my hear me outs are like this-
Chase: That’s fine!
Courn: But it's just like women who present masculinely and men who present femininely, that has always been my type for people, for characters, so I'm just like I don't know, just challenging the gender norms is always my favorite thing. So I'm like really skinny, like little girly guys. I'm like, oh yeah!
Chase: Come here!
Courn: Yeah, and I'm like manly woman. Like, Oh yeah!
Chase: That's fair. I feel like, anytime I'm like, oh, that guy's, that's a hot guy. I'm like, he's got like long hair and a beard or something or like super long hair and I'm like, something about long hair.
Courn: Raymond's called me out every time. He's like, I literally think you just like everyone who you can't tell what their gender is. And I'm like-
Chase: Yeah!
Courn: Yeah and I'm like, I can't tell if that.
Chase: And what you gonna do about it?
Courn: Yeah, I can't tell if that comes from like a gender euphoria standpoint or an attraction standpoint. The ace in me doesn't know, but I like it.
Chase: Jess and I’s running theory, it's just like what you perceive as like authentic and vulnerable. And if you find that like really attractive when people are like very like authentic then like there's a certain level of connection there I think because-
Courn: That's fair, I feel like I don't find any conventionally attractive people attractive because I'm just like oh they just look like I don't know same to me.
Chase: I wonder if a lot of other people on the ace spectrum would agree or have a similar sentiment at all, I don't know if you're listening, comment below!
Courn: Comment below!
Chase: You need to get this on YouTube so you start commenting, no we just got off YouTube okay so we got that 1 here's the next 1…Ace from Powerpuff Girls, who was the gangreen gang leader.
Courn: Okay I just watched this! I'm looking it up so I-
Chase: Also I loved Powerpuff Girls!
Courn: Oh yeah, that is just my type! Please look up a photo guys cause I don’t think you understand!
Chase: I wanted to be him and I was always jealous of like the relationship him and Buttercup started. It was a little pedo, I'm not gonna lie.
Courn: Yeahhh!
Chase: Cause like It was kind of weird, but like.
Courn: He's giving bad boy team though. And the fact his name is Ace. But that widow's peak. No hate on widow's peak, but it's just so pronounced.
Chase: Yeah, yeah.
Courn: It's like a little mustache.
Chase: Yep, yep!
Courn: Okay, but also.
Chase: What?
Courn: Not hear me out or the obvious hear me out, I would feel it could be whatever the lady who never shows her face.
Chase: Yeah, Miss Bellum. Yeah, for sure.
Courn: Who's built like Bazonka.
Chase: Oh, titties out. That's all she's shown. And she talked in such a sultry voice.
Courn: Oh yeah.
Chase: Mr. Mayor. And he was always like, whoa, Miss Bellum, whoa!
Courn: Yeah. Okay, the dad in Powerpuff Girls?
Chase: I almost put Professor Utonium down, but I was like, you know.
Courn: He's too obvious. He is hot.
Chase: Yeah, he's just like dad hot. And I was like, I'm not really into like dad hot like that. I'm good for me personally.
Courn: I like a man in STEM.
Chase: True. Who can literally create out of nothing. Well, it wasn't nothing. It was sugar, spice and everything nice and a little bit of chemical X. Dude, that was my hyperfixation for sure as a kid. Powerpuff Girls.
Courn: I love that show so much.
Chase: I want to get a little more like figures and decorations in there. Because then I grew up and I got embarrassed because I was like, oh, I shouldn't be liking this. And then I got rid of all my stuff. I had the dolls. I had t-shirts.
Courn: Did you identify with 1 of the Powerpuff Girls more than another?
Chase: Oh for sure, can you guess?
Courn: Yeah, you know I'm gonna say like the the green one?
Chase: Buttercup! Yeah probably. I think I want like I was like her on the outside, but inside I was Blossom.
Courn: Okay, same. Because my friends all picked their ones and I got picked as Buttercup because obviously I had dark hair. And they always think that that one's like Asian boycoded, which is what I was-
Chase: It was a little bit. Yeah. Well, I think that voice actresses, 1 of them was Asian, wasn't she? 1 of them was brown?
Courn: I couldn't tell you.
Chase: I wouldn't know, but yeah, Powerpuff Girls was my jam.
Courn: That's fair.
Chase: Love that show. So yeah, Ace from Gangreen Gang. From Powerpuff Girls.
Courn: I also just love that it's the Gangreen Gang. Me and Raymond affectionately used the word gangrene all the time. I don't know if that's offensive. But every time we're just like, oh, he's gonna have gangrene. After nothing, that has nothing to do with gangrene. And then we actually had to look up and Google gangrene.
Chase: Yeah, it's messed up.
Courn: Yeah, 1 of his family members had gangrene. And I was like, no, why are we joking about this? It just sounds so funny.
Chase: It is kind of funny. Or it's like, what's the one you get like the wet foot when your foot's been wet too much and gets all soggy and rotten. What is that? Scurvy? No.
Courn: Scurvy, it might!
Chase: No, like foot rot. It's like when you're, it's like soldiers get a lot because they were anyone who listens to probably like trying to like say it out loud. Yeah. Okay. Well, anyways, my next 1, I don't know. This 1 might not be as strong, but I can't come in at a hundred with all of them. BMO from Adventure Time.
Courn: Yeah. I never watched that show that much. I know I should have, but I just never did. And I never got around to it but I know who BMO is they're like the little controller-
Chase: Game boy looking one, yeah so good!
Courn: Yeah they have a nice voice too so!
Chase: Well, I like the design of it like, yeah it's like a well-designed character, it's pretty simple but it's like 3d.
Courn: I think any character from that show.
Chase: Yeah. There's a couple obvious ones, but I was like, I don't know.
Courn: Like the princess?
Chase: Yeah. Yeah. And there's the, the guitar player, the lesbian one. It's like, yeah, I love-
Courn: Just don't pick the dog. Jake?
Chase: Jake the dog and Finn the human!
Courn: I will not hear that out, but-
Chase: Yeah, neither of those were like 2. And that's too obvious. So that's why I was like, it's not my strongest 1, but I had to go with that and I like that show a lot. This guy had a crush on in middle school, we were like best friends, he was obsessed with adventure time so I constantly watched it to like have something to talk about with him. RIP! Ready for this next one?
Courn: Yeah!
Chase: Hear me out the general from lilo and stitch.
Courn: Oh, yeah yeah yeah.
Chase: Yeah the 1 who got like bands stitch away and like the tall slender. Yeah. Yeah.
Courn: Why did I literally know what's what you were going to say? I literally just said to my head, I'm just like, oh, you're going to pick someone from Lilo and Stitch. And I was like, it's going to be that guy.
Chase: Because we knew because-
Courn: I feel like I just had a premonition. So.
Chase: Yeah. She's a good time.
Courn: Agree.
Chase: And the way she's just kind of like a hard ass, but then like kind of turned soft at the end. It's the Libra loving in me, that like balance of like salty sweet, like hot cold, you know, I got a soft spot for it, so.
Courn: I could see that. Definitely authoritative figure, you know?
Chase: Yeah. But I want to like push the boundaries.
Courn: Minus points for the army uniform.Camo.
Chase: Yeah. No, it was like, yeah, it was like 1 of the ones with the thing on it, right? Or which, didn't she wear like a gown?
Courn: You might be right. I feel like there was multiple fits. I just assumed because they were like a general.
Chase: Yeah, she had like the little headpiece. Also, did you know they're making a live action Lilo and Stitch?
Courn: I've heard that forever and I couldn't actually tell if they were like actually gonna do that.
Chase: I hate that.
Courn: Oh no, see, they're wearing like a futuristic uniform. Okay.
Chase: Cause see, Gantu would be the obvious choice from Lilo and Stitch. I feel like he's like the beefy guy, you know? I almost said Pleakley. But that also felt too obvious.
Courn: The girl Stitch for sure.
Chase: Oh!
Courn: Why did they I think it's just because-
Chase: That was from the tv show.
Courn: Yeah, sexualization things on there because they just like gave her boobs and long eyelashes and then yeah and she's pink.
Chase: Yeah, yeah they had to. They had to make sure you knew it was a girl.
Courn: Yeah, I love that. I love the TV show more than the movie.
Chase: The TV show was so fire.
Courn: Yeah, because each 1 was like going into a different alien they were capturing, they like pull it out and stuff. I don't know, I just like that set up.
Chase: It was like way more, It was like more variety of aliens.
Courn: Yeah, I didn't care that much for stitch. He was fine.
Chase: He's fine. Not me playing at recess as a kid with a kid who was like obsessed with Lilo and stitch and we'd pretend to like go around catch the aliens and shit.
Courn: And they're like you need to be the girl!
Chase: No, I don't think it matters we're just like I think he like had a crush on me. I don't know if I was just I don't know, what it was but we were-
Courn: He was trying to relate to you with cultural examples!
Chase: Okay! We were the only J dubs in the class or like in the school so we obviously had to like be friends for some stupid reason. He was very annoying though, it's so annoying but yeah we would like be on the playground pretending like catch the aliens and shit.
Courn: That's cute!
Chase: Wholesome. When you can't celebrate birthdays and you can't have birthday cake at school you go to the library-
Courn: You go lilo and stitch! That's the logical-
Chase: Yeah and he could like do the voice really well so that's kind of weird but also Nani. We touched on that earlier, but we just need to get some flowers in there.
Courn: Yeah, that's not a hear me out. Everyone, that's a universal truth.
Chase: The boots with the shorts. Oof, oof.
Courn: They had no business animating her like that.
Chase: Uh-uh. Not, they knew what they were doing.
Courn: They knew.
Chase: It's the same person who made Miss Bellum from Powerpuff Girls. Okay, ready for the next one?
Courn: Yeah!
Chase: The chicken from surf's up.
Courn: Bruh! Wait the chicken?!
Chase: Isn't he a chicken or he's a rooster, whatever the the chicken rooster guy!
Courn: I didn’t know there was a chicken in there.
Chase: It’s surfs up, oh I think it's a rooster, yeah it's a rooster.
Courn: Ewww!
Chase: Chicken Joe!
Courn: Eww! No, I’m looking at him and I’m like absolutely not!
Chase: When you hear him talk, he's so freaking funny.
Courn: You're feral. Okay, it’s a no for me.
Chase: Wow.
Courn: He does have a corn surfboard though in these photos.
Chase: So that one got you.
Courn: So that puts him up 1 point in my book.
Chase: He's like, I like this picture of him just throwing the shaka!
Courn: I feel like he's very like shaggy coded.
Chase: Yes, someone did call out the shaggy from Scooby-Doo 2, you know it's got the mini Scooby.
Courn: Yeah.
Chase: Someone definitely used Hear Me Out and they used that guy. Though, like the Shaggy guy.
Courn: I could, I could hear me out any any of the mystery gang. They're all hot.
Chase: Yeah. And again, that was too obvious. That was too obvious.
Courn: Hot take. Scrappy-Doo. Scrappy-Doo. No, I do not agree with that. I fucking hate Scrappy-Doo. He's so annoying.
Chase: Why? That's kind of the funny part, I thought. His surfboard is a corn. It's pretty good. You don't like chicken Joe?
Courn: No. No. I just really don't like chickens and roosters. So it's kind of scary to me.
Chase: That's fair. I just like the way he like walks and just like hunched over and kind of like, hey, and then when he makes friends with like the local people-
Courn: You'll never find a bird on my hear me out list. Birds scare me.
Chase: That's fair. I don't like birds in real life. This is fake shit.
Courn: That's fair.
Chase: Oh, no, not him in a hula in a grass skirt and a coconut bra.
Courn: You like him now when he's perpetuating your culture, appropriation!
Chase: I was gonna say yeah, this this movie was pretty weird. It was supposed to take after Duke Kahanamoku a little bit like talking about like greatest surfer and they kind of like disappeared and shit.
Courn: Oh, okay that makes sense. I literally like when I watched the movie, I was like oh it's like happy feet but in the sun!
Chase: Bruh. Bruh.
Courn: But I actually had like much of like, a actually really good storyline.
Chase: Yeah. I like surfs up, that was solid, that was a solid one. Okay we're gonna get into a different realm of things. Now, Mr. Mosby from Suite Life is Zack and Cody.
Courn: Duh.
Chase: How is that a duh?
Courn: What do you mean?
Chase: What? I feel like that's not conventional of all the other characters on this show. I feel like the mom would have been the hot one.
Courn: Oh yeah. Yeah.
Chase: See that's the obvious one.
Courn: I could hear me out any character back in the day. I actually had such a big crush on every person Maddie, London-
Chase: Why, Maddie was like the worst one!
Courn: Yeah but she's, hot Ashley Tisdale!
Chase: Yeah yeah.
Courn: That's so yeah, like her in High School Musical.
Chase: I never watched it.
Courn: Oh Sharpay! Come on.
Chase: Yeah no, I never watched. I was too cool, I was above, that's what I thought I was in high school.
Courn: Is that their name Ashley Tisdale? Is that right?
Chase: Yeah.
Courn: Okay I was like second guessing.
Chase: Is she still straight? I mean a lot of Disney stars are coming out not straight.
Courn: You know, I don't know I have no idea, but.
Chase: Yeah so there's there's one!
Courn: Yeah like PRNDL? So hot.
Chase: There you go.
Courn: I want a man who’s gonna teach me how to drive. Maybe that's my daddy issues, but-
Chase: What a weird premise for a show though, just like living in a hotel and having adventures. I thought I thought that would be so cool. I wanted to be Zack and Cody.
Courn: Yeah, literally that was like 1 of my top like probably 5 shows growing up.
Chase: Oh yeah, those outfits are totally back in style.
Courn: Yeah, I love that we're coming full circle.
Chase: No!
Courn: I think it's hilarious, like studded stuff is coming back in style. And I keep seeing studded shoes and I'm like, guys, we just did that in like 2012.
Chase: Yeah.
Courn: I had studded loafers. They're coming back.
Chase: Studded loafers? Yeah. You had some loafers?
Courn: Yeah, I did.
Chase: Oh, look at you.
Courn: I still have some loafers. Like they come back in different styles but not the studded ones.
Chase: I guess I'm studded. I'm studded loafers. The fire truck from Cars.
Courn: Yeah, see that one's a common all the Cars characters are very common on the hear me out cakes.
Chase: Oh, yeah. Someone picked the what was the Porsche girl and I was like, that's obviously.
Courn: Obviously, I saw someone put Mater and I was like, that's a hot take.
Chase: I saw someone put Doc and I was like, okay, that's the only one I can kind of get behind.
Courn: Yeah, but they're also cars, but all of them are kind of weirdly sexually coded. There's a lot of weird innuendos in that movie and very flirty behavior. So.
Chase: Yeah.
Courn: Well that just reminds me of Titane and people being obsessed with cars. So.
Chase: Titane?
Courn: She like gets impregnated by a car.
Chase: Oh!
Courn: Which sounds like that would be absolutely like an insane B budget movie. But it's actually really good if you like horror stuff. A lot of body horror. But okay.
Chase: Yeah. I don't like that.
Courn: I know you would not watch that. Don't watch that.
Chase: I'm not gonna. It's kind of like the scary movie, the snowman 1 that Nick Cage was in. Did you see that?
Courn: No, but I feel like I always see screen grabs from it.
Chase: Yeah, it's just like him in a, it's like the snowman's haunting him or something. I think, right? It's like possessing him or whatever.
Courn: For some reason I thought that was the same movie where that old 1, I think it's called Jack Frost, where the guy becomes the snowman. Because he's a bad dad. And I literally thought that just was the same movie.
Chase: Same movie. Oh, RIP. Okay, next one. The blue head guy from Megamind. No? Not good?
Courn: No, I could see that. He's got some nice features, besides the big ass head.
Chase: Got some good features!
Courn: No, I feel like he's got a little snatched jaw, and a little pointy.
Chase: Goatee?
Chase: Yeah. No, no ponytail because he's bald, but eyebrows. Very.
Courn: No, I meant like he's like pointed like he's got a pointy nose and chin I feel like. Now I need to look up a photo.
Chase: Yeah.
Courn: I feel like they made him look kind of like, I don't know, chiseled.
Chase: Chiseled?
Courn: He's kind of like chiseled. I don't know.
Chase: He's got a studded jacket.
Courn: No, he's not as chiseled as I thought.
Chase: He's a nerd.
Courn: He looks like Howie Mandel.
Chase: Oh, he does.
Courn: He looks like Howie Mandel in that little monster, that monster movie where he's under the bed and he's blue. I'm pretty sure that was the inspo.
Chase: Okay.
Courn: Does that change your mind?
Chase: A little bit? I hate Howie Mandel.
Courn: I actually couldn't have anyone that has a goatee on a list because I just hate most facial hair.
Chase: Okay. That's facts.
Courn: His little girlfriend in that though, obviously.
Chase: Yeah, yeah. That's the thing is like, and same thing with the Incredibles, couldn't pick any from there because they're all kind of like hot and you know, it's just like nah.
Courn: I feel like I would see like cloudy with a chance of meatballs people in the same area too.
Chase: I thought about doing someone from Chicken Little and I was like nah it's also kind of obvious. Same with Madagascar.
Courn: Yeah.
Chase: I think it's pretty obvious. I almost put the penguins from Madagascar, specifically the penguins.
Courn: Oh yeah.
Chase: But that's also kind of like.
Courn: Each 1 for a different reason!
Chase: But it has to be all 3!
Courn: Yeah, yeah, yeah!
Chase: Can’t be just one, you got to put them all together.
Courn: I agree with that, yeah.
Chase: Okay so this kind of goes right into hand hand in hand with the next 1, I specifically put the drone helpers from Bee movie, the ones with like the little helmets.
Courn: I gotta look them up. I actually really hated that movie.
Chase: It's pretty bad.
Courn: It scared me.
Chase: Yeah, it's pretty bad. Yeah, they were kind of like the big tough guys.
Courn: Yeah, yeah.
Chase: There was 1 where they got the little like bee like honey gun.
Courn: Yeah. I just don't like the animation so I would not be attracted to anyone in this style, this is grossing me out.
Chase: Yeah, okay.
Courn: It's like scary, their eyes are scary in this.
Chase: It was a strange movie, for sure I guess they're a little military, that's the second military person I got on this list, what's that say about me?
Courn: Yeah, I don’t know!
Chase: I like breaking rules, I like breaking rules so maybe I'm trying to like break the rules.
Courn: Yeah, there's definitely a theme, there's definitely a theme!
Chase: Don't judge the theme. Okay the next 1 is Over the Hedge Raccoon. The raccoon from Over the Hedge.
Courn: That's fair.
Chase: Yeah cuz that movie bangs. That's a great movie.
Chase: I do really like that movie. We had it on DVD. Watched a lot. There's a lot of flushed away and ratatouille characters used in some of the other videos I saw and I was like that's too obvious. Yeah so we're getting into this long list. There's only a couple more.
Courn: I do have to add before we move on.
Chase: Yeah.
Courn: Hear me out, the thumb guys from Spy Kids. Obviously.
Chase: Obviously.
Courn: You know what they can do with those thumbs.
Chase: Yeah. What them thumbs do. I like it. I like that one. Okay. We're coming to the end here. I got a few more, Schnitzel from chowder.
Courn: Oh, obviously, you read my mind! Dude, you have such a theme with all of these people!
Chase: Oh yeah, what's the theme? Call me out!
Courn: I don't know like, authoritarian, like big beefy people?
Chase: Yeah cuz I probably uncut like very consciously want to be big and beefy.
Courn: Yeah, yeah I agree. His voice though?
Chase: Rada rada rada!
Courn: Rada rada rada!
Chase: It was so deep! Yeah!
Courn: I literally love that show.
Chase: Everything.
Courn: For some reason, no one knows what that show is. And every time I'm just like, oh, thrice ream. And I always say-
Chase: I’m glad that we can bond over this because that was like a fixation for us, my sister and my cousins and I, and we would we watch a show religiously. I used to record like little clips of it from my little original phone so I could watch little clips on my phone and it was like the little 10-second clip or something.
Courn: Oh my god, I feel like we would have been friends when we were younger!
Chase: Rada rada rada!
Courn: I freaking love that show and the artwork is like really pretty. I went back and watched it last year on hulu and I was like oh shit the patterns move but-
Chase: They don't!
Courn: No they don't, the patterns don't move but they do!
Chase: Correct!
Courn: And I just thought that was-
Chase: So good! When schnitzel gets his like face cheese grated.
Courn: Yeah okay, I don't think I don't think that's a hear me out at all.
Chase: Oka,y but that's yeah schnitzel from chowder. Ready for my last one?
Courn: Yeah, this has just been all over the place.
Chase: Yeah, did you watch sky high?
YCourn: eah!
Chase: Glowstick guy.
Courn: Okay I have to look up who that is!
Chase: Cause obviously the parents were hot as hell in that movie, like the mom, fucking tits out. Oh, glowstick guy. When he got scared and nervous, he would like basically turn into a glow stick.
Courn: Are you also attracted to Gojo? Because this feels very Gojo coded. Oh, just like, I don't know, white haired guys that are skinny. That's every anime person's weakness is just all these white haired guys. There might be some racism in there, but.
Chase: Probably, probably.
Courn: Some of these photos, it's giving Gojo.
Chase: I could see that, I could see that. Not an anime person, but I get it. I see it now. So those were my hear me outs. Hopefully, you got some good ones. Or you heard some good ones at least. We had a couple. I think Ace was the number 1 that got you.
Courn: Yeah, I think the thing that got me that like, I don't, I, every time I see 1 of those cakes, I relate to every single person that I've, if I've watched the show, I'm like, yeah. And I think that's just toxic of me. Cause I'm like, oh yeah, I could see dating anyone. Like, I just don't see any barriers. And I'm like, oh yeah. And they all were like relatable people. And yeah, I think what surprised me on your list, there was a lot of dudes.
Chase: Yeah. I thought about that. Cause I feel like the hard part is like a lot of the female characters kind of suck back in the day. Like there weren't a lot of great ones.
Courn: They're very hyper femme, which is like personally not my taste.
Chase: Yeah, but it was like hyper femme in just like your male gaze type of lens?
Courn: Correct!
Chase: Cuz like I love me some hyper femme I mean my wife is quite femme but like-
Courn: I think of like Pepé Le Pew, the whatever girl skunk. Is that a cat or a girl skunk he likes?
Chase: In what?
Courn: Like what is that like, Looney Tunes?
Chase: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah!
Chase: Like those types of old shows and stuff like Tom and Jerry every time there's a girl animal like they're just like ridiculous like that’s what I think of, eyelashes!
Chase: Lola, Lola from Looney Tunes was like the obvious one. And I feel like even like Miss Piggy, you know, it's like, they're just like over-sexualizing. So I don't feel like I like that as much. So it's not necessarily I would like bang any of these characters. I just feel like they're like, okay, hear me out. They're kind of hot in just like this way. But.
Courn: Yeah. I think my toxic trait is that I can be attracted to anyone if I think they're nice. So I'm just like, I'm like, I don't know, I'm on the ace spectrum. I feel like I'm vaguely on the aro spectrum just because I don't always understand what it means to like someone or verse whether they're attractive, verse like I want to be with them. It's really hard for me to tell, but I'm always just like every character in a movie. I'm just like, oh, they seem so nice. And like,
Chase: Yeah, I would go on a date.
Courn: Yeah. So every time I see these cakes, I'm just like, yeah, yeah. And then I'm like, am I the weird 1? Cause I don't think any of these are that weird.
Chase: Raymond is asking you out via Pokemon.
Courn: Yeah. Like, I don't know. I thought literally every character in Pokemon was so hot as a kid.
Chase: So that's the thing I also feel like a lot of the Pokemon were pretty obvious choices in general because there's a lot of people who pick different Pokemons in the trend and I don't I wanted to try to like avoid that because there's a couple who are like obviously like Missy and Brock.
Courn: I would pick so many of the Digimon evolutions, for some reason, I don't know if you ever watched Digimon, some of there evolutions go straight up to just like people in armor that are jacked.
Chase: I don't like that. I don't like, ooh!
Courn: Like, it's like a cute little like dinosaur dude just turns into a buff dude with wings.
Chase: Oh.
Courn: I'd be like, Oh.
Chase: Baby Courn over there is like, oh, yeah, I like it. I like it. Yeah, I was also was wondering if I was going to like pick more women or not, but I feel like, like I said, they kind of just suck. And I hated that.
Courn: I mean, that's kind of how it is. I feel like also just like most of the main characters and TV shows and stuff it's always like yeah it's always dudes and I feel like that's kind of like how you get your self-awareness is like I don't know relating to a dude, crushing on a dude, I hate that that's kind of like a universal experience growing up.
Chase: Yeah. Yeah.
Courn: But I'm like I think I had a crush on someone from like every show.
Chase: Really?
Courn: And it always was the same like it always the same. I always like dark-haired people. I never really liked light hair. I've never liked blonde people. Sorry if that's like offensive to say. But I just never did. So any like dark haired character on any show, I'm just like hot.
Chase: Fair. Maybe the hot take is as an Aries, I just like I'm obsessed with myself where I like I'm attracted to people who are like me and who I wanna be. So it's just me feeding into my own toxic personality.
Courn: That's literally a normal thing though. People are literally attracted to people who look like them and their family. Like there's studies that show people literally marry people that look like their parents, their siblings, themselves.
Chase: That's weird.
Courn: That's why all those siblings versus dating shit because literally people, especially white people, they love to date people who look just like them. And I've never been like that. And like, I don't know, I'd feel like, or maybe I just haven't had the chance to date people that look like me, or I'm like a more of a, I don't know. I don't see a lot of people that look like me. I don't have any celebrity lookalikes because I'm wasian that got weird features.
Chase: You’re unique! That's fair. That's fair. Well, I feel like I was sufficiently judged.
Courn: I'm not judging you. I thought those were all pretty good. I've seen some really bad ones.
Chase: Yeah.
Courn: They were like, I don't like I saw like Phineas and Ferb and to me that was like-
Chase: Noo! It’s also kid.
Courn: And they didn’t add a disclaimer, like they were like oh I would smash Ferb, and I was like-
Chase: Oh no!
Courn: Candace, maybe?
Chase: Maybe?
Courn: But don’t hit me with these guys that look like 10.
Chase: Doofenshmirtz. See doofenshmirtz was the obvious one.
Courn: I saw one that was like Perry and I'm like yeah, he's like a spy.
Chase: Yeah and he's probably an adult?
Courn: Maybe.
Chase: Also not you the other day at code when we played code names using doofenshmirtz as the connector. And then Raymond missing it.
Courn: Yeah, it was so obvious.
Chase: I lost it.
Courn: I thought that was a killer.
Chase: That was good. It was good. You still beat us both of those times though.
Courn: Barely.
Chase: Yeah, just barely.
Courn: What do you mean? I think I hit the assassin. I made Raymond hit the assassin.
Chase: Yeah.
Courn: Like second guess.
Chase: Yeah.
Courn: That was my bad. That was my bad.
Chase: That's all good. All right. Well, now that we know we can bond over chowder, we should go watch some chowder.
Courn: We really should.
Chase: It's a good show.
Courn: Rada rada!
Chase: Bye!
Courn: Bye!
Chase: Hey folks, a quick disclaimer here. Courn and I speak directly from our own experiences, and while we try our best to amplify marginalized voices and present accurate information, the thoughts expressed here are definitely not a reflection of all neurodivergent, AAPI, or queer folks. So, if you have any suggestions, comments, or thoughts, feel free to email us at hello@neurotakespod.com. Thanks!