Episode 27: The movie IS better than the book!
Courn: Welcome to Neurotakes, this is Courn.
Chase: I'm Chase.
Courn: Let's get into it!
Chase: *in announcer voice * Welcome back to another episode of This or That, starring Courn Dog.
Courn: *laughs* That was pretty good! I think you could have had a second life as an announcer.
Chase: Yeah it's the animations. I can't act. I always thought acting wouldn't be that hard but I imagine it's pretty hard.
Courn: And so I saw myself in video. I was like oh that's why it's-
Chase: Yeah I did not like doing theater in class. Like in middle school, that was 1 of our like forced electives. Ooh, I hated that. I hated that.
Courn: Fair.
Chase: Cause I was trying to be too, I was trying to be cool, like too cool for people. But now that I'm just like authentic on me, I could probably do it.
Courn: I could see that. You come across as a real person.
Courn: Rude. You come across real?
Courn: No, this is like, okay.
Chase: What do you mean?
Courn: I'm gonna tell you, this is a thing. Because everyone tells me I'm not cut out for acting because I don't look like a real person when I'm doing things.
Chase: What?
Courn: I look like a sim when I'm like talking or when I'm moving. Like some people just look natural, which usually just means like non-disabled.
Chase: Yeah, that feels messed up.
Courn: But I'm like if you just means like they look and sound like I don't know It's just the right amount of cadence and stuff I don't know I come across awkward and I see other people in shows and I'm like, oh like what we people say they're like, oh, that's a bad actor. I'm like, oh they feel like they're just like they act like me, I guess I don't have a job in that so!
Chase: True. I say that all the time in Jess I'm like so we're watching them I'm like so that's like actually hard to do right cuz they have a pretty big like theater kind of background they did a lot yeah so I'm like that's actually hard to do? And they’re like yeah, okay sure! It's like watching the Olympics for like, how hard can it be? That is like, I can obviously be like, wow, that's so impressive. But like acting, like how hard can it be?
Courn: I got a really good like, I can just tell if someone's a good actor because I'm like you look real. I don't know what that means but you don't look like a robot. None of the I feel like the uncanny valley thing that's what I get told I'm in and-
Chase: The uncanny?
Courn: That's the autistic curse. Like you look like a robot posing as a person and I'm like, I think that's ableist but-
Chase: Yeah that is. Speaking of acting, have you finished the new season of heartstopper?
Courn: Duh!
Chase: Okay. Well, we're almost done with season 2. So don't spoil it. We're catching up.
Courn: Come on!
Chase: I've been busy.
Yeah, It was like it was a hot week. I fully took off like 6 hours of work so we can watch it on the day of!
Chase: Oh, I don't want to hear you complaining about not paying bills this month. You're still gonna complain.
Courn: That's fine.
Chase: That's fine. I had a lot more board duties pop up this week, we had some more meetings so I was busy with that and then get ready for the trip, it's my wife's birthday weekend this weekend so we got a lot of shit going on on top of trying to live and keep a household running.
Courn: That's already too much.
Chase: Dude, too much. And then this, got carve out time for this.
Courn: Yeah, this is fun.
Chase: This is fun. This is fun. So today's fun topic is a this or that. I wrote down a list of this or that, and you can pick this or that.
Courn: You should know that I tried to make a list and then I got so overwhelmed by all the choices of trying to think what would the categories be? Literally anything that I didn't come up with anything.
Chase: Okay, I tailored them to you specifically.
Courn: Oh, I love that!
Chase: Because you're Gemini, baby!
Courn: Yeah, I first need to know like are you the type of person who like asks people like would you rather do this?
Chase: Oh, what do you mean?
Courn: I don't know, because like that's me, I'm that person I've been told many times that I'm that person like I'll just be like oh like would you rather you know like kill this dog or the other dog, and my partner thinks it's so unhinged but I do it all the time!
Chase: Oh, out of nowhere! Yeah sometimes the thing is like like you mentioned though I have a hard time being like spontaneous and like having like spontaneous thoughts without or like it's more like intentional without like at some direction so again my theme was just like to you like specifically to you it wasn't just like sports or something that like would get a laugh out of you and be kind of funny, make you make it hard for you to pick. So I picked a couple things that I was like, Oh, definitely this.
Courn: I love that!
Chase: And then my wife was like, are you sure? Like, like maybe not. And I was like, Ooh, so, that's my theme.
Courn: I love! My hidden talent is I'm really good at these. I can give you an answer every time. And my partner hates it.
Chase: That's fair. Okay. Well, it's a pretty decent list. So we'll get into what we can I did hit up with a couple I started with a couple soft ones, a couple easy you know guys got to ease you into it before you're like hit you with something-
Courn: I have no idea where these are going, I'm scared.
Chase: Okay easy 1 number 1, oh I'm not gonna be able to remember these numbers? So the first 1. Yeah. Winter or summer?
Courn: Winter obviously!
Chase: Why?
Courn: Summer's hot.
Chase: Yeah, we talked about that recently!
Courn: Even though I like the sun-
Chase: The layers?
Courn: Yeah, I actually really like the winter. I like snow. I like feeling like, I don't know, I like feeling cold more than I like feeling hot.
Chase: We really need to actually plan a mountain trip this year.
Courn: I know, we've been talking about every year of our friendship that we need to go out and ski and snowboard and we never have because it's super expensive and requires a lot of coordination.
Chase: Yeah. And it's like a full day commitment. You also never write down our commitment and plans. So that's okay.
Courn: What does that mean?
Chase: You just don't want to hang out with me.
Courn: What does that mean?
Chase: I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
Chase: How many times were you like, oh shit, dude, I forgot to write it down. I forgot we're doing that.
Courn: It's because sometimes you'll text me a date and then I don't immediately put it in my calendar and if it's not on my calendar it literally doesn't exist so it is my bad!
Chase: Yeah it is but that's okay!
Courn: We're gonna do it, we're gonna do the winter activities!
Chase: It’s all good!
Courn: Also Christmas is my favorite holiday and that's in the winter so I think that's what's-
Chase: Well like this winter sports season here in Oregon it has like really like shifted forward like you're lucky to get some snow and enough snow in like the Thanksgiving/Christmas window so like even get on the mountain I feel like it's always after New Year's which is always harder to coordinate. Yeah okay so that was number 1, there's a first 1.
Courn: I want to know your answer though!
Chase: Oh I can't give you an answer to some of these though. Cause these aren't about me. I can give you an answer for this 1.
Courn: But that 1, I know that one's obviously you are the summer.
Chase: Yeah, for sure. For sure. And I really do think the more serious note to that is I do run pretty cold typically so like the heat feels really good. Like I'm always cold I'm just like like I don't get that hot in hot weather. Like when I was-
Courn: Must be nice!
Chase: Yeah. No, seriously, like it doesn't I don't get that hot and I don't get too dysregulated from it.
Courn: I run cold/hot all the time just cold temperature. I'm running anything that's bad the opposite of what it is at all times. Turns out that's just bad temperature regulation, bad interception. So.
Chase: Fair. Salty or sweet?
Courn: Sweet. That's actually a hard 1 cause I really love the combination. I actually don't like 1 or the other. I like to eat them at the same time. But I don't like eating something sweet without having chips to chase it.
Chase: *laughs*
Courn: *laughs* As the drinkers, the 21 plus crowd would say.
Chase: Oh!
Courn: I don't drink obviously.
Chase: I was gonna say. I bet your nightmare would be a pickle back. It's a shot of whiskey with pickle juice.
Courn: Eww, that sounds disgusting. Every shot is already my nightmare. Like.
Chase: So good.
Courn: Yeah, I eat so much sweet stuff. That's like, most of my safe foods are all sweet things. So, but like what type of sweet though? There's different types of sweet. I don't like chocolate sweet, but I like fruity sugar sweet. And that's very specific. I don't fuck with anything like chocolate. I don't really like caramel. Most of those, like, I feel like, I don't know, like flavors that they have for like desserts that aren't fruity. I don't like those that much. I don't like vanilla. Coffee. I like drinking coffee, but the flavors, meh. Just inject that sugar straight into my veins.
Chase: True, you be drinking black coffee and just drip coffee. It's a nightmare. I drink black coffee, like drip coffee at work and I eat it with my protein cookie as a snack and then it's like sweet.
Courn: You just gotta get used to it. Honestly the black coffee is something you just get used to.
Chase: No it's terrible.
Courn: Well as someone who exclusively you knew I only drank mochas in all of college.
Chase: I know.
Courn: I could not stand even like a latte that was too much for me.
Chase: I know, I remember when you come in with the drink that was pre-made from your mom's apartment complex in the lobby we got the free drinks.
Courn: I brought a whole class over there 1 time they didn't say nothing!
Chase: Yeah, because what are they gonna do?
Courn: Perks.
Chase: Perks. Okay book or movie?
Courn: People gonna be mad at me for this.
Chase: Uh-oh.
Courn: But movie.
Chase: I would say that too.
Courn: I really like reading, like I'm a big reader, but just something about seeing something come to life in a movie is just so exciting for me. I'm a very visual person.
Chase: That's fair.
Courn: Like I even if we think about like book to movie franchises, I don't like even though the books are better to me it's more exciting to see the movies. I don't have a good imagination. I'm not gonna lie. Like I'm not good at imagining characters doing things and I love reading books. I get absorbed into them but like-
Chase: Yeah.
Courn: I know you'd probably say a movie too.
Chase: For sure and I think for the exact same reasons like I have a hard time creating those scenarios in my head, like my imagination isn't strong in that regard. So I prefer to see all that as well but-
Courn: I think that would be a hot answer like people would get mad at that.
Chase: Really?
Courn: The books always better, like I'm so intellectual! Okay reading's hard for a lot of people, okay!
Chase: Yeah that's why I read graphic novels now, yeah! Oh, Heartstopper is the easiest to read by the way-
Courn: It's so good!
Chase: I love it. It's like the easiest read, good pictures. It's simple. Oh win-win. These like this or that's are always hard to I feel like as a neurodivergent AuDHD pairing here because there's so much context and context makes such a difference in answering but like you don't have any context and that's the point of this is you don't get context you just gotta like choose because you could go either way depending on what it is like, scary book, scary movie obviously a movie but like sometimes like superhero movies like comics sometimes those hit you know depending on the person.
Courn: I think you have to phrase it like if you could only have 1 for the rest of your life like books or movies what would you pick and I would pick probably movies because I like watching stuff.
Chase: Same. Same. Here's 1 for you. Styrofoam or cardboard?
Courn: Cardboard. What does that even mean? I don't even know what that means, like for packaging, for touching, like-
Chase: Context, you don't get any.
Courn: Well, I don't like styrofoam. Does anyone like styrofoam? Who be like, yeah, I want styrofoam. It's bad for the environment. It sticks to you for years. And just like, it's like the popcorn of packaging. Why is it like that? Why does it stick to you like that? It's like glitter.
Chase: The popcorn of packaging!
Courn: There actually is popcorn in packaging, the little whatever.
Chase: Yeah, the peanuts.
Courn: It just sticks to you, it's weird.
Chase: Yeah, it is terrible. Well, that question was from my wife and I was like, sure, I'll put that on there. Jess had that.
Courn: I like it. But I think if you don't pick cardboard, I think you might be a psychopath. And I mean that affectionately.
Chase: Yeah. Yeah. But cardboard can be pretty rough too sometimes depending on like textures, if it's like kind of, if your hands are dry or if it has a little, yeah, like it's not great. Or if it's got the dust on, it oh hated that like cardboard all the way but when I did when I did when I worked in retail and like we'd have our inventory days the cardboard has like that little it would have like a little dusting on it, oh so bad, and then your hands just get that like dirty coating on it. But yeah. Okay. So cardboard all around.
Chase: Ready for the next 1. Cats or dogs?
Courn: Dogs.
Chase: I know that's why I, Jess suggested-
Courn: BOW WOW WOW WOW WOW!
Chase: Top dog!
Courn: I got that dog at me.
Chase: Got them dogs out. I was like, this is a stupid question, but just like, no, it's just this.
Courn: No, I like it.
Chase: That's right. Because I would say cats.
Courn: Really?
Chase: Yeah.
Courn: You don’t even have a cat.
Chase: No.
Courn: That's wild to me.
Chase: I mean, I didn't have a dog either until I married this person. My stepson. He ain't my real son.
Courn: That's always a fair 1. I feel like they always, okay. I don't rewind that back.
Chase: It's like, he ain't my real son. He's my stepson.
Courn: Damn. Stepbrother. No. Okay. But the thing is, I do feel like for some reason, I feel like cats get equated with like autism a lot. Like all the plushies that are like, oh autism plushie. It's always a cat. And I get that. But like the, I feel like the personality type of introverts is like a cat and everyone's like you seem like you'd be a cat person but if you actually know me beyond seeing me you'd be like dog, obviously Gemini dog-
Chase: Corn dog.
Courn: The fact that I'm using Gemini now so casually-
Chase: I love it!
Courn: I think I'm just perpetuating it.
Chase: I love it. I'm here for it, living for it. It was not on my bingo card for you to adopt your star sign this year, but here we go.
Courn: Yeah, my special interest is also in dogs. So I freaking love dogs.
Chase: Which is why I was like, this is a stupid question.
Courn: I know over a hundred dog breeds. I keep getting those videos on TikTok where they have to guess the dog breed.
Chase: Oh yeah, I've seen that.
Courn: Oh my God.
Chase: You'd be so good at that.
Courn: I literally am so mad. I do it in front of Raymond. I'll say in 0.2 seconds.
Chase: 100%.
Courn: He's just like, I think you got this.
Chase: Yeah. You got to go on that show and make some money.
Courn: That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
Chase: We could really fit up the office here, a recording studio.
Courn: Meanwhile, I know like 2 breeds of cat. Calico. What? Is that not a breed? That's just a coloring.
Chase: No, I don't think that's a breed. I think that's a color! Siamese is a breed.
Courn: The bald one. Ooh. Oh yeah. Not the lady in the tramp, Siamese cats.
Chase: That should have been on a hear me out.
Courn: Yeah, if someone picked that, I would have screamed. I think they edited that out of the movie, I'm pretty sure.
Chase: They should. They should. Okay ready for the next 1?
Courn: Yeah.
Chase: Fries or tater tots?
Courn: Fries.
Chase: Really?
Courn: Anyone should know that I'm a tater totter hater. If I could fuck, marry, kill, tater tots, fries, and you can put like pickles in there, I would still kill tater tots.
Chase: Oh my God. *hysterically laughing* Oh my, you could fuck, marry, kill, and put pickles. That says a lot, you hate pickles.
Courn: I would fuck the pickles just because it'd be a wild time. It'd be a wild, I hate tater tots.
Chase: Why?
Courn: They're so mushy. I hate hash browns too.
Chase: No, they're crispy.
Courn: No, but the inside is mushy. I don't like it.
Chase: Courn.
Courn: And they always taste bad.
Chase: They're so good. What are you talking about?
Courn: They're never well seasoned. I just don't like them.
Chase: That's because we live in a white city. There's nothing to season.
Courn: They just always taste so like fried to me. I don't like it. And I know they're literally called like, they're all fried. All the potato things for the most part. But I know you like tater tots.
Chase: Hell yeah. There's too much variety in a fry. Like I mean waffle fries are good. I like a crispy fry. That's the thing I don't like the soft soggy fries and I feel like too many fries turn soggy and so like I always like a tater tot because it's gonna be crispy. Good for dunkin. I said they're good for dunkin. Dunkin in sauce.
Courn: I mean I don't think they're any better than a fry to dunk because a fry has more service area for you to actually dip it.
Chase: No there's more sauce to like hold.
Courn: You want to put your finger in the dipping sauce?
Chase: No, it's like putting 1 finger in your sauce. Like, okay, there's some sauce versus like, I don't know, a whole fist.
Courn: Yeah, but it's so much smaller.
Chase: But for that same bite, I'm going to get so much more potato and sauce.
Courn: Fine.
Chase: I'm just saying.
Courn: I don't like tater tots. I get so visibly disappointed if I find out that a restaurant does tater tots instead of fries. Like if you have to pick, it should always be fries. You can have both, but you can't just have tater tots.
Chase: You can't exclude the option of fries.
Courn: No.
Chase: Okay. All right. Jesus. Well then!
Courn: Didn’t know it was going to get so heated on potato products.
Chase: I like it. Potato products.
Courn: I got a lot of thoughts on potatoes.
Chase: Also, why don't you like hash browns? They're so good.
Courn: I don't like, I don't think I like whatever that type of potato is, cause it's the same thing. It's like mashed, I hate mashed potatoes.
Chase: I thought you meant like russet potato or like-
Courn: No.
Chase: I was like, but type of potato. Oh, so like the format, the format of potato.
Courn: Yes, cause it's the same format I feel like. You put hash browns in a ball, it becomes a tater tot. And if you mush it all together, it becomes mashed potatoes. That's mushy, I hate that.
Chase: Mashed potatoes are so bad.
Courn: I like all my potatoes crunchy.
Chase: Yeah, agreed. Agreed. Okay. This is gonna be so out of context. I don't even know if you're gonna pick it up. I don't know if you'll get it. Worms or bears?
Courn: Like, would you love me if I'm a worm? Or like choosing the bear instead of the man?
Chase: Gummy worms or gummy bears?
Courn: Ah, goddammit! Why would I get that? I really was thinking, I put on my hard hat and I was like, yeah, would you love me if I was a worm?
Chase: Not quite.
Courn: That's me, chronically online.
Chase: Gummy worms or gummy bears? Worms or bears?
Courn: I actually don't really like either that much.
Chase: Not even like sour gummy worms or sour gummy bears?
Courn: They're fine. I would say probably bears just because they're smaller and I like bite-sized food. But I think they're the same to me. They're pretty similar. I don't really like gummy worms or gummy bears that much. Like I love sour candy, but I like the niche stuff. I don't like the gummy worms. I hate trolley products.
Chase: Okay, niche stuff! I don't like mainstream candy.
Courn: No, something about like trolley products all kind of tastes like the same.
Chase: Okay, trolley's like the worst example. Don't pick, trolley's gross. I had those, that, what is that 1 brand? It's like red and white bag.
Courn: I do like that 1 but whatever the forest 1, that one's really sweet.
Chase: Those are terrible.
Courn: I just feel like that's what everyone had so I just thought that was synonymous with gummy bear and worms.
Chase: Let me see what the brand…albanese.
Courn: Oh yeah yeah!
Chase: Yeah that's but they make gummy worms too I think. Or maybe they don't? But okay so you're going with gummy bears?
Courn: Yeah what'd you pick?
Chase: Gummy worms all the way.
Courn: I literally have only ate gummy bears at your house. You need to put your money where your mouth is.
Chase: Regular gummy worms kind of suck. So you got to get sour ones. The sour gummy worms, I fuck with hard.
Courn: I don't like the flavor options. Like they're like, they ruin it every time. They're like, oh, we're going to put the green. I'm going to put it next to the orange. And I hate orange flavor.
Chase: Oh, as a kid, I used to bite half and half!
Courn: Yes and that's the I just want the pink and blue 1 that's the best 1!
Chase: Why is that always the best flavor?
Courn: Because no 1 likes orange and yellow and I'll take this to my grave I won't eat any gummy products orange, yellow, or purple, those are 3 flavors I do not like!
Chase: Okay.
Courn: Grape, orange!
Chase: Skittles are like that too. They had to change the green 1 from lime to green apple.
Courn: That's much better.
Chase: Yeah.
Courn: I love green apple. That's my favorite flavor.
Chase: That's a good 1.
Courn: It's green. It's not real, but.
Chase: Second to blue raspberry for me. But I can't do blue raspberries much these days. That dye is rough.
Chase: Yeah, you notice it?
Chase: Sometimes depending on how like fake it is. Yeah.
Courn: Oh interesting. I eat so much candy. So-
Chase: That's fair.
Courn: I Like the the gummy clouds. That's what I would pick over bear worms. No, have you had the gummy clouds?
Chase: No.
Courn: Okay, you need to try them because you don't understand.
Chase: Okay, bring them. Do they have milk in them?
Courn: They're so moist.
Chase: What? What? They're moist.
Courn: They're just like, they're like squishy. Like it's like marshmallow texture.
Chase: Is it a peep? Is it like a peep?
Courn: Ew, no, no, no, no. It's just like a sour candy.
Chase: Okay.
Courn: Obviously if I can find them, they never have them at the gas station because everyone loves them. They're always sold out.
Chase: Okay. Yeah. Bring them next time.
Courn: I will.
Chase: You ready for this next 1?
Courn: Yeah.
Chase: Steven Yeun or Daniel Dae Kim?
Courn: Steven Yeun. Oh, easy. Easy!
Chase: Oh. Okay. I thought that was gonna cause more debate.
Courn: I love Steven Yeun. I am Steven Yeun's number 1 fan.
Chase: Number 1?
Courn: Yeah, that's a lie I am NOT the number 1 fan, but I just loved Steven Yeun in the Walking Dead so much That's the reason I watched that show. I just think Daniel Dae Kim is hot and that's about it. I don't think his acting is that spectacular.
Chase: That's fine.
Courn: He was fine in Hawaii Five-0.
Chase: But you're basing it off of acting and looks. So in this case, Daniel Dae Kim only has the looks, not the acting. Wasn't he in Lost?
Courn: Yeah, remember we talked about that. This is also why I don't like him because the fact that he did know how to speak Korean and they had him speaking Korean and it was so bad, that lessens the points.
Chase: Yeah, that's fair. That's totally fair.
Courn: Who would you pick?
Chase: Probably just based on looks because I'm shallow.
Courn: Daniel Dae-Kim.
Chase: Daniel Dae Kim probably. His jaw.
Courn: I think that's the popular opinion.
Chase: Yeah.
Courn: I'm just a hardcore Steven Yeun fan.
Chase: That's fair and I don't consume as much media and having like a formed opinion around him. He's a grand, he's a fantastic.
Courn: Did you ever watch Nope?
Chase: Yeah. He's a cowboy. Cowboy character guy.
Courn: He's so cute in that.
Chase: He's so good in that. That's a good movie.
Courn: He's a kind of an asshole but he's-
Chase: That's the best part though he plays the likable asshole it's like a great character whatever also Keke Palmer not being just like an old man so good, I love her love it okay on other people, tattoos or piercings?
Courn: Tattoos. I don't like piercings.
Chase: That's what I figured was an obvious answer but I didn't know if it differed based on like the person.
Courn: Yeah I understand like piercings are like less permanent obviously from that logistical-
Chase: Kind of, not really though because sometimes if you leave a piercing in for long enough like your skin's not going to fully grow back you have a little scar so we're going to fully close up some of them do but like not all of them!
Courn: I've just never had a personal interest in piercings I don't quite understand them and they seem quite annoying from a sensory standpoint. Like I like the fact that I can't really feel my tattoos once they're healed and it's like styling without having to actually wear something. It's like an accessory that's built on but like something about jewelry like I don't know if I just had a nose ring on and I have fake nose rings I put them on they're so uncomfortable.
Chase: Well yeah also the fake ones are pretty uncomfortable yeah, I don't feel this in my nose.
Courn: But I'm like I don't know I feel my earrings, like they're annoying to me so I'm like the thought of having piercings everywhere and like I don't know but I also think piercings can be really hot on people like I hate people like oh I think you look like a cow when you have a nose piercing. I hate that I don't know if it's inherently racist but I find it sexist and weird I just like-
Chase: Why do you gotta, what?
Courn: Cause the bullring you know?
Chase: The 1 I have right now?
Courn: Yeah!
Chase: Your septum?
Courn: Yeah that's literally what my dad would say. And I hear so many people that like still have that opinion. And I'm like, yeah.
Chase: I love my septum piercing. That's a great move. Birthday present.
Courn: I wanted to get 1, but just also they're a lot more expensive than I thought. No 1 told me that piercings were like so expensive at nice piercing shop, which totally makes sense.
Chase: Yeah.
Courn: I got this bitch done at Claire's almost passed out in the bathroom and blood out, but-
Chase: Jesus Christ!
Courn: So maybe you should, not even joking. I hit my head in the bathroom and like literally almost passed out.
Chase: That's a nightmare. Literally.
Courn: And then they got infected and I had to get it re pierced. So.
Chase: That's fair.
Courn: Now I got like 3 holes in my ears that go nowhere and I can't get a second piercing.
Chase: See that's the thing, they don't fully heal. So it's not permanent or it is permanent.
Courn: Turns out just shoving an earring in your ear is not the way you should pierce it.
Chase: Ice it and then shove a needle in it?
Courn: I feel like you'd be mixed on this question. I'm like ask someone who has tattoos and piercing.
Chase: The only reason I have a lot of piercings though is because that's like the only thing I could get when I was in the cult. Is like you can kind of get away with fudging some piercings because theoretically you could take them out and like not have them in if I needed to but like I mean I had a lot of my ears and stuff pierced when I was in the cult.And then the nose ring definitely came once I came out. I always thought about eyebrow piercing too.
Courn: Yeah, I always liked that too.
Chase: Yeah, but honestly I'm just over the care, the aftercare of a piercing. It's really fucking rough. Granted, ears are like pretty hard, so I feel like a face would be a little easier, but I don't know.
Courn: Every time I hear the healing process for any piercing. I'm always just like oh!
Chase: It's bad. Honestly, my nose my last nostril still put kind of healing. It's pretty brutal. Like it's very sensitive. So I'm still soaking it every night and keeping it happy. It gets yeah-
Courn: So we're team tattoo?
Chase: Yeah team tattoo, but the only piercing which again we have to give a little context is a nipple piercing like that. That's fucking hot.
Courn: That's fair. I would never get 1 cuz I don't I don't I don't understand. It seems uncomfortable to me, but they do they are very hot on people!
Chase: This person after the Thorns game the other day saw my wife's and got so and then like gave her gave him a dirty look and then just like leaned over to me and just like oh that person just like glared at me for my piercings and I almost turned around and like stared him down but it was too late cuz I got up.
Courn: I would have been like stop looking at my wife's nipples!
Chase: That's what I was gonna say that's literally what I was gonna turn around and be like are you looking at my wife's nipples? And just make it really awkward but yeah they're hot it's a good time.
Courn: Old people are a time.
Chase: I liked your video about that. It was so good just like covered in the jacket and like
Courn: That’s literally them every time though they're like quivering in their boots and I'm like that's not even adding like a racial aspect like that's just really just having tattoos like old people are so dramatic. yeah it's a different time! Okay you're an adult!
Chase: Yeah it's called not being born in the great depression! Salt shakers or cookie jars?
Courn: Salt shakers.
Chase: Why?
Courn: Because they're smaller and they're easier to get more that's my perspective.
Chase: Quantity over size?
Courn: Yeah. As someone who collects both of them, that's how I know you asked me this question. Cause I'm thinking in the context of thrifting, not in the case of like use case. I don't use any of my salt and pepper shakers or my cookie jars because most of them have lead and shit in them and you can't actually, You don't want to put food or anything in them, but yeah. I have way more salt and pepper shakers. I have 47 pairs and I only have like 20 cookie jars because they're so big. I can't even have room for any more.
Chase: Yeah, but they're cute. They look good.
Courn: There's so much more salt and pepper shakers too. It's like 1 of those gifts that-
Chase: More variety!
Courn: You can pick up for someone like anywhere. Like that's what I wish if I had cool friends that traveled a lot. That could be you.
Chase: Dang! If I had cool friends?!
Courn: That is literally, you're the only literally friend I know that travels and goes places. Bring me back salt and pepper shakers because I think that's cool.
Chase: Yeah we keep an eye out usually when we're out and about for stuff like that.
Courn: That's very thoughtful.
Chase: Of course. Very demure. It's called being a good friend. Take a hint.
Courn: Wouldn't know.
Chase: Soft or firm mattress?
Courn: Firm.
Chase: Why?
Courn: I don't like that feeling when you like go on a mattress and you like I hate memory foam. That's my hot take, I fucking hate memory foam and guess what? It's not good for your posture either because if you're like me, I've had weird posture and back, thought I had kyphosis. I do not just turns out I just hypermobile.
Chase: Really? They thought you had kyphosis.
Courn: Yeah, that was like what everyone thought. And then I actually got an x-ray last year.
Chase: Is that when your spine does the opposite curve? Or curves in the reverse way.
Courn: Yeah, it's like out or back.
Chase: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Courn: It could be a minor curve. No, I don't have that. I just have like really bad posture.
Chase: So you hate memory foam? You hate memory?
Courn: Oh, I thought you said you ate memory foam like you ingested it?
Chase: No, I mean you hate it.
Courn: Yes, I do hate memory foam because it just sinks in all of my bad posture and it like doesn't feel comforting. I like a firm mattress. Raymond likes a soft mattress. We met in the middle and it's still too soft for me.
Chase: That's fair. That's fair.
Courn: And I don't like it.
Chase: I do like the soft mattress but when I sleep on my side a firm is actually a little better I feel like, I don't know.
Courn: It's better for your posture and stuff to have a little bit more firm, your pillow matters more than like the mattress where your pillow is placed.
Chase: Yes, yeah I think my pillow is too tall right now I need to get 1 that has like a zipper so I can pull some out because my neck's been hurting, rip. 17 or 8?
Courn: What, what does that mean, 17 or 8? I don't know what that means.
Chase: There is you, just got between those 2 numbers which 1, this or that.
Courn: Now you stumped me because there's no rhyme or reason. I can't just pick a number randomly, I don't know what that means and I don’t have a connection to either of those numbers. They both sound bad. They’re both underage! This is a trick question. Don’t say 17 or 8, either way you’re going to jail!
Chase: I’m recording this for my attorney!
Courn: 17 or 8?
Chase: 1738!
Courn: 1738! That’s all I can think of! Why you ask me this?
Chase: This is the question that got you?
Courn: Yeah, I don’t know what that means and I don’t like it. It feels coded.
Chase: No there's literally nothing behind it it's just on the list it says 17 or 8.
Courn: I don't believe you, there's some deeper meaning here.
Chase: There's nothing no there's no. You just gotta pick 1.
Courn: I pick 17 because my favorite number is 7.
Chase: Okay, there you go.
Courn: But I don't like the 1 before it.
Chase: There you go. Someone's hear me out was the number 8. They were like-
Courn: Like 7 ate 9?
Chase: No!
Courn: I literally, okay, that is the most like, I feel like neurotypical shit I've ever, what the fuck does that mean? Number 8? What does that mean? You guys are just making stuff up.
Chase: Yeah, they are. I'm making it up right now, 17 or 8. Like, what do you pick? What number do you pick? That was, that was a question.
Courn: I picked.
Chase: You did not like that 1.
Courn: No, I didn't.
Chase: Okay, well, good thing I'm following up with a 1 that you like Cubone or Gengar?
Courn: Oh!!! You got me quivering in my boots. They're like on the same exact level to me. Gengar, because he's got trauma. He was left behind.
Chase: Ooh!
Courn: He's a scary boy. I really like Cubone though. But the fact that he wears a skeleton on his face is kind of scary. Or someone else's skeleton. We don't really know.
Chase: I love Cubone. I was going Cubone on that 1.
Courn: That's fair. I always just like Gengar a lot cause he always was like a, in drawings they always make him like a companion to Jigglypuff.
Chase: Yeah, just like, yeah. That's fair. That's fair. I like that 1 got you good too. Cubone is so cute. Like in the Detective Pikachu movie when they start with the Cubone, that's just like crying in the field. Oh, so cute. That's the only good thing about that movie was all he's kind of -
Courn: That's like whatever an ode to the show because he's crying. Yeah he's a big baby, that's also why I picked gengar.
Chase: Oh because you don't want a big baby?
Courn: No I'm not a big baby I get left behind in a building and I'm sad and scare people to cope with it!
Chase: Yeah, that's fair. Corn dog or hot dog? I know you don't really eat meat, so we're going to go in the terms of vegan.
Courn: I'm going to say corn dog because my name's in it. But also because I have no, I don't like hot dogs at all, but I do like the corn on the corn dog. So I'll nibble off the corn.
Chase: True, the breading on a corn dog's way better than a hot dog bun.
Courn: It's got like good meat flavor.
Chase: Yeah, sometimes it's like sweet, salty too. I feel like it's like the breading on the cornbread yeah super solid!
Courn: That's a good question for you, what would you I feel like you literally eat both okay?
Chase: Corn dog! I eat both but I would take a corndog I like stuff on sticks like that easy to eat I love them as a kid my mom would get those for us a lot so she didn't have to cook.
Courn: Those mini corn dogs actually haunt me though like the like the hundred packs my brothers ate so much of those. I did have a phase where I ate hot dogs, like the ballpark microwave hot dogs, warm up for 30 seconds.
Chase: Not even on the pan.
Courn: No I couldn't do that I couldn't cook on a pan.
Chase: That's fair. My sister couldn't cook on the stove for a long time. She was too anxious.
Courn: Terrified me.
Chase: Okay, ready for this next 1?
Courn: Yeah.
Chase: Charlie Swan or Carlisle Cullen?
Courn: Neither. I wouldn't pick either I don't like either of them but we gotta pick Carlisle just because Charlie Swan's a cop, acab! So.
Chase: Okay that's fair I don't know who either of these people are. I know they're Twilight, but.
Courn: That's Bella's dad.
Chase: Okay.
Courn: Which I feel like he would be the obvious pick because like people really like Bella's dad. Like he's very chill. Carlisle's a little creepy finding little child brides for his little vampire children.
Chase: Sure.
Courn: And he looks scary.
Chase: Okay.
Courn: He looks like every blonde guy you've ever seen.
Chase: They're scary. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know.
Courn: I just love that you just have 0 context.
Chase: Because these are questions for you. These are your questions. I picked this or that for you. Also, I didn't realize that like, cause I never read the books. So.
Courn: Should ask Edward or Jacob?
Chase: Well, that's like the obvious 1. And that was on the list.
Courn: Who you think I'd pick?
Chase: I would almost think you'd pick Jacob cause he's brown. But like, I don't know, honestly. I don't know enough about the show to have any context as to who they are but I had to ask Jess why Bella was with both of them at some point I was like wait doesn't she marry Edward why is she doesn't she fuck does she divorce and leave Jacob, what is going on with them? I don't know what's going on but there's talking about the imprinting on 1 of the babies and I was like, what the fuck?
Courn: Her baby.
Chase: Yeah, that's weird.
Courn: Yeah, let's just be clear, both these guys kind of suck.
Chase: Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Courn: My head says Jacob, but my heart says Edward. He's just a better guy in the books, even though he's also equally shitty.
Chase: Okay. So. Okay.
Courn: Jacob's like a child in the book. Like they almost make him seem like so much younger and immature. So I mean, Edward's like very old. That's got problems too.
Chase: Yeah. I don't like that. Boo. Pink or purple?
Courn: Pink.
Chase: Oh, that was pretty easy.
Courn: Pink's my favorite color, nequivocally.
Chase: It's cuz you're a girl.
Courn: Yeah I'm so girly. I like pink. Did you know that pink started as a boys color and then they switched it?
Chase: I'm not surprised. Is that true? Fact?
Courn: Yeah it is. It originally was marketed as a boys' color and then it got switched. I think it was in the 50s or something. So, yeah, little baby boys who dress up in pink.
Chase: Oh, there you go. We should do a fact or caps like segment. Fact or cap?
Courn: Fact or cap?!
Chase: I like it.
Courn: Not me googling what cap was!
Chase: Millennial, millenial! Tom nook or kk?
Courn: You gotta say kk slider we need some-
Chase: Yes kk slider!
Courn: Don't finish-
Chase: Yeah kk slider!
Courn: KK slider, obviously, what do you mean tom Nook's a fucking landlord. Fuck this guy. *high pitched animal crossing noises* No.
Chase: Meanwhile, KK is just like, got his little songs going. *high pitched animal crossing noises*
Courn: I literally put on a playlist that was just KK Slider songs-
Chase: I love that!
Courn: On YouTube for like 3 hours and I was working to it.
Chase: That's good.
Courn: Yeah. Also he's a dog. Dog over raccoon obviously.
Chase: I don't know. I take a raccoon over a dog.
Courn: Yeah?
Chase: But not Tom Nook.
Courn: Yeah.
Chase: Tommy though, and Timmy?
Courn: Fuck those guys.
Chase: Oh shit.
Courn: They're so annoying.
Chase: You hate them.
Courn: You haven't played enough Animal Crossing.
Chase: I have.
Courn: You know how annoying they are. Like the older games just follow you around. *high pitched animal crossing noises*
Chase: Yeah.
Courn: And in a store.
Chase: The GameCube 1 was pretty bad.
Courn: They're so annoying. I actually-
Chase: Oh, they weren't in the GameCube 1, were they?
Courn: I never had the GameCube.
Chase: Oh.
Courn: I think it's City Folk is where they show up and they're in the upper story of Tom Nook Shop.
Chase: Yeah. Also Tom Nook Shop used to be so good. Now in like the new game, I feel like it got real weak. It never expanded. Never grows.
Courn: No, I keep hearing rumors that they're making a new 1, but I can't tell if that's...
Chase: Yikes.
Courn: I just miss the city aspect. Like the happy home stuff, whatever the home decorating is fine, but I did it for like 2 hours and I was bored.
Chase: Oh, Jess still goes back and does it sometimes. Squiggles or checkered?
Courn: Ooh, hot, hot, hot question. These are way too personal!
Chase: I told you these were at you. I started soft and then kind of eased my way into Courn.
Courn: I think squiggles. Cause I think I have some leftover trauma from like being really obsessed with black and white checker print in middle school and it took me a while to get on the checker print game and now people are saying that checker print is like the gen z chevron and that actually hurt me!
Chase: That hurts!
Courn: I still like checker print but a classy checker print. There is no better checker print than like a pink red checker print. That will make me go bonkers every time. Put that on anything, pink and red checkers.
Chase: Really?
Courn: Yeah, so good. So like blue and dark blue.
Chase: Oh, it's like monochromatic.
Courn: Yes, I like monochromatic. Like high contrast checkers is like a little-
Chase: Too much.
Courn: It's very Vans, it's very converse.
Chase: Rude, I really like that. Okay. It's very demure to have a monochromatic checkered.
Courn: That's fair. I just like squiggles. If I could have everything squiggly, like that's every time I see like an expensive product and like, and it just has a wave on it. I'm like, give me my money!
Chase: That's fair.
Courn: So good.
Chase: This 1 you kind of answered already. No air conditioning or no heat?
Courn: Obviously. Wait, I have to think no air conditioning-
Chase: Or no heat, like if you're sitting in a room.
Courn: No heat because I need air conditioning. There was a lot of like content not I don't know why I couldn't process those 2 options.
Chase: Yeah, cuz they're both like a no it's like yeah.
Courn: No, I do like my heat though. I couldn't live without air conditioning.
Chase: That's fair. Alice Cullen or Jessica Stanley?
Courn: Why is that a comparison?
Chase: I don't know. I just looked it up. Plus she had it.
Courn: Obviously Alice. That's like an unhinged if someone picked Jessica. That's like actually what?
Chase: I don't know.
Courn: That's like a random NPC.
Chase: Bro, I don't know.
Courn: That's like Bella's friend. I don't even know what her last name is. That's unhinged. Alice is so hot.
Chase: Really?
Courn: Alice is like very hot and queer coded. And like, even though she literally has a boyfriend, she's queer coded to me. The way she put up her leg up in the baseball scene.
Chase: Oh, that's right.
Courn: And it's like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
Chase: That's true. That baseball scene.
Courn: That's super massive black hole.
Chase: Strawberries or cherries?
Courn: Strawberry. I actually don't really like cherries.
Chase: Well I mean it doesn't have to be eating, it could be decoration.
Courn: The look I like them, I like them both but I don't like cherries so I have to pick strawberries. I don't really like fruit in general-
Chase: Just fruit flavored candy!
Courn: I love the look of fruit, it's sad my whole place is just decorated with like fruit stuff I don't even really eat fruit.
Chase: That's fair, last 1, ready?
Courn: Yeah.
Chase: Bean or chappi?
Courn: Oohhh! the fans are not gonna like this, they're not gonna like this. The fans is Raymond. I have to pick Bean because he's older and I've had him longer and Raymond doesn't like that line of thinking and I think that's how I know I'm not ready to have a child.
Chase: Raymond’s never gonna listen to this episode.
Courn: What was that?
Chase: He's not gonna listen to this episode. He'll get here in years.
Courn: It'll be in 3 years.
Chase: So okay so what about children and dogs, what's the connection?
Courn: No, this is why I think I'm not ready to have children because I know you're supposed to like love all your kids equally, regardless. But then I think about with Bean that I've had him so much longer than Chappi that obviously I'm more attached to him. But then you can make the argument that he's older and he's lived his life but I don't know what the scenario is like if I had to choose 1 to die now it's getting harder because he's a lot older. But Bean is just like my first dog that I was like this is my fucking dog like I was obsessed and-
Chase: It was right after vector and everything too?
Courn: Yeah killer Corgi scenario. I love that fucking dog. He is so poorly trained. He is so stupid. He's so annoying.
Chase: Bean?
Courn: Yeah. And that's what makes him so-
Chase: He’s a bully!
Courn: Yeah no, you saw him.
Chase: He's a literal bully.
Courn: But like Chappis grown on me so much. She's such a literal angel. She looks so scary, but-
Chase: She's very demure. Look at her.
Courn: She's really not demure.
Chase: She looks like it though. She looks like it. Yeah. She always looked with the eyes and long snoot, but like personality gremlin. Yeah. I love her. I pick Chappi.
Courn: She's very sweet to people she likes, but strangers. *loud barking noises*
Chase: Yeah. She's terrified. You know I pick Chappi. You know, I pick her in a heartbeat. I don't like beans feet.
Courn: I know. I know. I love beans feet. He's got the best. That's also.
Chase: No Frito feet.
Courn: He's so good. He smells so good. I don't know what it is. He never smells like dog. He always smells like Frito-feet. That's his best skill. Chappi goes outside, she smells like ass. It's all that fur.
Chase: How is her booty doing?
Courn: It's better.
Chase: Okay.
Courn: No context. No context. How was her booty doing? Her booty was very expressed, guys. It was very fishy and smelly.
Chase: Yeah, those glands. Well, that's all I had for this or that.
Courn: So pretty good. See, I wasn't expecting you to give like very specific examples because what did I do? I looked up this or that and there's like just some like really unhinged shit. Like, why did I feel like some of them were just like borderline on just like giving people disabilities and like picking between them? Like, they're like, would you rather like not have legs or not be able to see? And I'm like, what do you mean? People literally live like this just fucking fine.
Chase: Yeah, that's messed up.
Courn: There's definitely a lot of weird ableist undertones, I think, in some of the would you rathers.
Chase: Yeah, and that's why I didn't want to pick a would you rather, because it's like this or that. It's just something kind of light and easy. And I didn't want to pick some that's too.
Courn: I feel like that reminds me of a fashion video, and I don't know if that's just my context whenever I think of this versus that. Like it's always like this outfit.
Chase: Or that outfit!
Courn: Okay, if you want to know some Courn lore.
Chase: Ooh, let's get it.
Courn: This is the hottest Courn lore you'll ever find. But I ran an Instagram page called the School of Fashion back in high school with my friend. And we had like 20,000 followers, which was like a big deal.
Chase: 20, 000 is a lot back in the day.
Courn: Yeah, 2012, like that was a fucking big deal. That was a million, it was not. But yeah, we just like posted outfits and stuff. And like did a little styling and I would edit my photos. So like there was 3 of me and it looked good. I'm still doing the same shit apparently.
Chase: Yeah. I love that.
Courn: Yeah. So we made fashion content.
Chase: Is it still on? Could you find that page somewhere?
Courn: No, because I renamed it, which was my second passion, became the Edit Club, which is what I was doing in college when I did photo manipulation.
Chase: I remember that.
Courn: I've never not had some passion project Instagram. It's actually so funny. Cause I just switched every few years.
Chase: I remember the edit club.
Courn: Yeah. Very cheesy.
Chase: Yeah. I remember that. You still got those photos somewhere?
Courn: Oh yeah. I have them all saved on my drive and stuff. They're actually not as bad as I thought. Some of them are a little cringy. It's mainly just weird seeing me look like a literal child and a whole different, I was so femme presenting it, super long hair and super small. And I was like, who is that? But that was really off track!
Chase: I love it. I love ending on some Courn lore. Okay. Well I guess we're going to go get some tater tots and hot dogs.
Courn: I rather die!
Chase: Okay.
Courn: Not literally..
Chase: Bye!
Courn: Bye!
Chase: Hey folks, a quick disclaimer here. Courn and I speak directly from our own experiences, and while we try our best to amplify marginalized voices and present accurate information, the thoughts expressed here are definitely not a reflection of all neurodivergent, AAPI, or queer folks. So, if you have any suggestions, comments, or thoughts, feel free to email us at hello@neurotakespod.com. Thanks!